Morning coffee

[RICH MUISE]

I'll try and get some more pics when I change the solenoids out. Hopefully it will be the same size body so I can just use the bracket that's already mounted. I'm not sure if I'm getting the mounting hardware as stated on the box with the one just ordered.........no hardware shown in the pics. If I remember correctly, I used a small screen door roller that had the groved wheel.

[RICH MUISE]

Update..I got all the seats taken out masked off and redyed, and reinstalled. They look tons better. I'll post some pics later. I also got some areas of the windlace put back where it belongs, this time with adhesive as well as staples. I think it got pulled out from big butts trying to squeeze out of the back seat. The new seal was put on the fixed rear window, passenger side. I misspoke when I said I hadn't followed my own advise.........I never redid that side, the new seal was still in the bag waiting to be installed. I did find some better ways of doing the install. I'll update the sticky post in the technical board. Basically, I built up the glass length and width so it was a tight fit and used small wedges I had found to keep the seal/glass tight worked great with a minimum of hassel. A few hours and it was done.
My project for the day is making up some mounting brackets for my fire extinguisher. I had it just laying on the floor in the back seat, but figured that wasn't a good thing to have tossed around should I be in a roll-over. I'm thinking maybe I should add a latch to my console's glove compartment door for the same reason.

[RICH MUISE]

Got the fire extinguisher tied down, I think I'm done with the interior refreshing,repairing.
It's suppose to be in the mid 60's today........should make for a really good 1st Saturday of the month cruise in here in town.
I got my Ford trunk solenoid. Looks like the Chinese stuff on the market now is a copy of this Ford one......just looking, it appears to be an exact duplicate. I did get the complete kit including switch and brackets and a bunch of hardware. Project for tomorrow.
Terry..It'll be almost impossible to get a good pic of how I did the pulley for the solenoid cable....it's inside the trunk support. I did use a screen door nylon roller for the pulley. I mounted it between two 1" corner brackets using a small shoulder bolt for the pulley's shaft. After you asked about that, I had to go out and look just to make sure everything was still intact or the cable hadn't come off the pulley posibly being the reason the solenoid wasn't releasing the latch any more. I actually wasn't going to order a new solenoid until I had checked out the old one....just checking Ebay to make sure they were available when I saw that nos Ford one.
I'll bet all you west coast guys are betting on the 49ers for tomorrow?? You're not gonna have a good day. I honestly think this is going to be the Chief's DECADE if Mahommes stays healthy. LOL, I may have to switch allegence from my Broncos........they've been hard to watch the past 3 or 4 years anyways.
C'mon baseball!!

[mustang6984]

You will see 3 feet of snow in the Mojave desert in July before you will EVER hear me root for the 'Frisco team!
Spring training in 12 days!   

[djfordmanjack]

Country music anyone ?

boy the two of them could sing....

Dolly Parton & Porter Wagoner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgM_gPMsODQ

[mustang6984]

I have their albums they did together...and if memory serves I have 2 of one of them...one which has NEVER been unsealed. (I have a few never-been-opened albums.)

[RICH MUISE]

The three of us again did the '57 lunch cruise to Russel's truck stop on I 40 in New Mexico last Sunday. High 60's..windows down, nice day.  On our way out of town, a guy followed us into Sonic to tell me how much he liked the car. My wife and Sherri got a kick out of that. He showed me a pic of a gorgeous 58 retrac he owns and said he has 5 projects going. I gave him my card and told him to call. Hope he does, I'd like to see his cars. He's in Canyon...closest town to Amarillo. He took 1/2 dozen pics of mine. In the cafe at Russells, two couples stopped by our table to ask about the '57 and tell us how pretty it was. They had watched us pull in.
Monday the cold front came in, light snow for two days, low 20's, icy roads. It was 16 when I woke up this morning.....brrrrr!
Got my trunk release working again. It just got out of adjustment, so I have the unused Ford kit I bought on ebay. I should have looked at it months ago....took 2 minutes to fix. I can get rid of that dog leash coming into the back seat I had hooked up to the latch.
Started working on getting the new door seals put on. Been without for several years. LOL, for some reason, I have 3 unused door seals......not sure how that happened. When I put the door seals on, I mask off the door so I don't get the adhesive on surfaces not wanted. That's what I'm doing now........I'll get back to that after the garage warms up a bit. 16* this morning, my garage was still at 46, so I'm real happy about that. I know there will be some areas at the top of the door that the seals don't quite close up. I'm going to try and add an additional strip of seal on the top of the door jamb to see if it helps with the wind noise. I'll let you guys know how that works out/looks.

[RICH MUISE]

Got the driver's door seal installed. Bill had posted on another thread he had in the past received seals that were too short. My newer (2018)seals were also a foot too short, but I had one older(but new) one that was the right length, so I just added a piece from the extra short one after shortening it even more so the seam would be on the underside where it fit into the wavy channel thingie.
I must have installed the seals on the doors the first time with the doors off the car. I sure don't remember having a problem reaching the hinge side of the door like I did today...got lots of cleanup to do. Oddly enough, the short seals had all the molded corners in the correct place, so I can't buy Carpenter's  excuse they were front seals for a 4 dr. mispackaged. They had to be 2 dr seals that were just cut wrong.
The good news........I closed the door not expecting it to shut without slamming, but it closed real easy. I'm wondering if it'll be the same when I use the older seal on the passenger door. Maybe the newer seals have a softer rubber? We'll know before too long.

[RICH MUISE]

I got the older door seal installed on the passenger door today. Guess what..........door has to be almost slammed to close! That's telling me Carpenter has indeed changed to a softer rubber. In addition to that, I took the car out for a drive to see how much quieter it was. Not as quiet as I would like, certainly a big difference over no door seals, but the passenger door is definetly not sealing as well as the drivers door with the newer (softer) seal. That's also a good thing for current users. Hopefully the cars will seal better and not have the door slamming issues we've had for years.
Not sure how many others would be able to do a direct comparison. Had I known this, I would have installed the newer short seal I had on both doors and used the old seal for the patch. At least the passenger door doesn't get opened as much, and in time it won't have to be slammed as hard. BTW, the reason I ended up with the extra seal was that it just never got installed.
I'm hoping guys that have installed the "newer seals" (bought in past year or two) will report in as to whether or not they are having closing issues like we did in the past.

[mustang6984]

Well...at least it s sealed. And like you said...with use, it should get better as it is forced to conform more with the door. Maybe you should invest in one of those mechanical door slammers! LOL!!!

[djfordmanjack]

Jay gave me info about how he cut/shaved off extra material off the backside ( glue side) of the door seals in several critical areas (among them is the dogleg area of doors), which helped a lot in making closing the door easier without having to slam it. it could be reasonable to use clay to determine seal thickness in certain areas and cut the seals accordingly.

that topic is a never ending story. I have stopped using factory style replacement door seals in the past 10 years and use self adhesive (soft) natural rubber foam strips that I buy at my local machinery equipment store. they come every mm ( approx every 1/16) and are available in several different widths (10mm=3/8, 12mm=1/2" aso). I simply use different thickness and width according to what's needed.

[hiball3985]

I've read several post of all the problems people have been having with Carpenter seals on classic Ford trucks so I've been avoiding replacing the seals on mine, they are not original but had been replaced some time in the past by the previous owner.
I always wondered why they call it wind lace? Is that suppose to help block wind noise? I also found a lot of noise was coming off the door mounted mirrors, when I switched from a square style to a round one the noise was less. But unless it's freezing cold I drive with the window open 90% of the time.

[RICH MUISE]

I'm 100% sure a good windlace does as much to stop wind noise as the seals do. That's why I went so long without bothering to replace the seals. Biggest advantage to the seals imho is stopping water leakage, not wind. Every time I washed my car I'd have to dry off the inside door windows, windlace, etc. That was the main reason I decided to finally get off my butt and get them put on.
Like I said though, I have high hopes the newer seals from DC are going to be better at sealing and not have the door slamming issue. I'm anxious to hear from members with recent installs like Les, and I'm assuming Bill will be at that point soon if not already there. Maybe this "ongoing issue" is finally nearing an end.
BTW, if you have door panels that are padded or otherwise thicker than oem, that will add to the door slamming issues if you have a good windlace with a firm attachment. I noticed a few weeks ago when I reattached the windlace that was coming loose in a few areas, the door immediately required more energy to close. The windlace should be tight against the door panel and garnish rail

[hiball3985]

Thats what I'm thinking. I have one area just above the wind wing where I can press the wind lace against the door and it stops a lot of the noise but Have no idea how to correct it and I sure don't want to tear it all apart 

[djfordmanjack]

Jim, you can either shim the door glass garnish moulding or the pillar garnish with some dense foam or cotton cloth to just push the lace where you need it. 57s are notorious in wind leaks because of the long heavy doors and the delicate dogleg shape of windshield post and door vent wings.
Probably everybody here knows that the original clamps to fasten the lace wwere rather unsufficient.