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Started by RICH MUISE, 2013-11-20 08:11

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RICH MUISE

My new Electric windows arrived this morning....box was perfect. Both units are broken in the same place I've been trying to repair mine!! Really really bad packing from the manufacturer. The electric motors are only connected to the mechanism with a 3/8 thin wall nylon tube that the worm drive rides in. Once installed, and everything bolted down, should be ok, but definitely needs shipping bracing of some sort. The units were just both wrapped in paper with all the loose components and put into a box twice the size it needed. Even if they were shrink-wrapped to carboard, it would keep that motor from putting pressure on that tube during shipping/handling. URGH!!! BTW, I'm pretty sure I probably damaged mine installing, way back when, not realizing how delicate they were. I was really hoping for a bolt-in replacement, that's why I reordered the same. Plus, I like the floating head mechanism that means the install doesn't need to be perfect, as it does with other kits.
Jegs has another set on the way......their last set, so I hope it's good!
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

gasman826

What is it with shippers...toss in some wrinkled up paper and call it packing!!

RICH MUISE

Just to be clear, it was not the shipper (Jegs), it was the factory / or distributor packaging.
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

Ford Blue blood

Rich would a chunk of the brake line tubing work to keep the worm drive happy?
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hiball3985

The shipping problem may be due to a lack of shipping materials, a lot of companies are having this. Their normal shipping may be sitting in a container in the harbor and they are doing their best to satisfy customers. I've seen more then a few stories about this, cans, bottles, boxes etc. One large egg ranch has no egg cartons to pack them.
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RICH MUISE

#3665
Bill........any 3/8 OD tubing would work, brake line tubing would be too small,  Copper would be the easiest to find. I was trying to avoid removing the unit from the door, and as mentioned, my attempts at a fix while still inside the door were a fail. I guess my frustration got the best of me when I ordered the replacement set, in view of the fact the broken one will need to come out anyway. At that point, I should have instead given a shot at a repair with it out.
Here's a pic of.the new broken ones, and how they were just paper wrapped inside the os box.
The red cable you can see where they are both broken is the worm drive.
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

KYBlueOval

Who is the Manufacturer / Supplier of these Power Window Kits? What is the Brand Name?
Thanks
John

RICH MUISE

#3667
John......Electric Life. The model I use is the EL 1000. A handful of distributors, but I ordered mine from Jegs. They're easy on returns,.
This is a pic of the whole unit that's easier to see. The reason I chose this unit is the floating mechanism that makes for a real smooth operation even if the installation is not perfect (as is required by most other kits). Note the two (one is broken off) square nylon pads. They ride inside a square channel that is mounted on the glass, so the mechanism can slide back and forth. You can imagine if the lift mechanism was secured to the glass with screws rather than these "floating blocks', the installation would have to be nearly perfect to get a smooth operation.........very hard to do........for one thing, on our '57s, the inside door panels are not parallel with the window channel and are actually curved somewhat.
This one in the pic, in addition to the broken cable housing (tube), also had one of the square guides broken off.
Several challenges in getting this installed are...all this stuff has to fit thru a 7 x 13 opening while trying to hold/support everything so the tube does not break. Also, the motor mounts are on a different plane by 1/2" from the upright.....and, as mentioned, it's all mounted to the inside of the door which is not parallel to the window channels.
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

gasman826

Your kits look very similar to mine.  I bought them 15 years ago from BALL'S Rod and Custom.  The difference was the PVC cable sheath on mine is black.  They were shipped shrink-wrapped to corrugated.

Fairlane62

Rich, did y'all make it through the wind storm ok?

RICH MUISE

We didn't have it bad at all here, thanks for asking.
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mustang6984

We did here in the Shell Knob---Branson West---Kimberling City area. Branson West had a touch down...and we lost a few branches here at the house. No word on how Berryville AR 10 miles south of us did. Some buildings in Branson West suffered damages.
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Fairlane62

Glad everyone is.ok.

RICH MUISE

Yeah, same here. I was worried about John in Kentucky, but I actually thought I saw a post from him the morning after, before I even heard the news of the horrible damage there, went back and checked, and he had indeed posted, so I knew he was ok.
I can do this, I can do this, I, well, maybe

KYBlueOval

No problem here in Louisville................BUT, SouthWest of here is beyond belief. A friend of mine is from Princeton KY. Her Mother's house and everything in it is GONE. There is nothing remaining. Yes, her Mother survived. As we all know others did not.
Paper work, cancelled checks, photographs etc., from the area that was hit, have been found 200 miles away.
John