Swift sure brakes

[Ecode70D]

  I have all the parts that I need  ( I think ) to hook up the Swift Sure Power brake system in my 57.  IMHO, my brakes work very well without them.  So my Question is this  are there any persons on this site that are actually using the Swift Sure brake system in their cars?  Do they really work, and is there any improvement  in stopping?  Am I just wasting my time installing the unit?   
   Thanks in advance for any and all answers.   Jay

[JimNolan]

I took mine out and went with the diaphragm in the engine compartment. I thought I'd get better brakes. Wish I'd left it alone now. I like the assist type braking. Not too much and not too little.

[Ecode70D]

I took mine out and went with the diaphragm in the engine compartment. I thought I'd get better brakes. Wish I'd left it alone now. I like the assist type braking. Not too much and not too little.

Jim
   When you make reference  to assist type braking, do you mean the swift sure type, or to the one in the engine compartment?  If there is no big gain, maybe I should just leave it alone.
    Are you saying that the swift sure system actually works?
    I did change to dual Master cylinder though and have no complaints about that.
     In all of the 57-58-59 Fords I have had over these many years, I never had one with that system in it.
   Thank you for your very valuable thoughts.  Jay

[JimNolan]

Yes, I like the Swift Sure type. I've got a dual mastercylinder also. But, I'd been just as well off staying with the swift sure setup. I kept my diaphragm, put it on the shelf and left the accumulator box on the fender just in case anyone might want to change it back. At the time I was going to disc brakes and thought I needed the newer setup. By using the word assist type braking, I'm saying that there's help actually pushing the brake pedal.

[junior58]

Mine has it and it seems to work fine. I don't know what ot would be like without it as it always been there.

[Ecode70D]

Well
    Jim and Junior 58  That's what I wanted to hear, so I'll go ahead and hook it up in the next couple of weeks.
    I was kinda fortunate to find the standard shift small swift sure brake pedal on an old unmarked Ecode Maine State Police  car.  It's not perfect, but it will do for now.
    Yes!!!   FWIW  In case you are wondering, I got the spare dual quad intake also without the carbs.  That was over  10 years ago.  Jay

[JimNolan]

Ecode70D,
   After putting about 50K on my Fairlane since 2004, I've come to realize things I did wrong and things I did right. Not using a Y-Block for the type of driving I do was a good thing. My Fairlane 500 needs 300 hp to make it fun and still be economically feasible for trips, no more hp than that. Disc brakes were a must for me because balancing those big front brake drums was impossible for me. Going to an aftermarket power brake booster was a waste of money, putting a Tremec 5 speed in the Fairlane was "the best" improvement I made to the car, and a Griffin radiator was probably the second best alternation I made to the car.
Good luck with your car and remember "new" isn't always better. 

[Zapato]

Am sure I'm not the only one totally ignorant on the "Swift Sure" brake system and why they're so special. So if someone out there wants to enlighten me with what is different from the norm it would be appreciated. Part numbers, diagrams etc....  would help tremendously.

Personally I prefer a non boosted dual chamber disc/drum master cylinder for safety and disc brakes for their non fading performance. That being said am always curious about good technology whether new or old.

Not my intent to hijack this thread just curious.

Zap-

[Ecode70D]

Ecode70D,
   After putting about 50K on my Fairlane since 2004, I've come to realize things I did wrong and things I did right. Not using a Y-Block for the type of driving I do was a good thing. My Fairlane 500 needs 300 hp to make it fun and still be economically feasible for trips, no more hp than that. Disc brakes were a must for me because balancing those big front brake drums was impossible for me. Going to an aftermarket power brake booster was a waste of money, putting a Tremec 5 speed in the Fairlane was "the best" improvement I made to the car, and a Griffin radiator was probably the second best alternation I made to the car.
Good luck with your car and remember "new" isn't always better.

   Jim
   Actually I have used several FE engines in 57-58 Fords over the years.  I don't ever remember doing one with an automatic but have had good results with the mid 80s top loader 4 speeds that have overdrive and mid 60s  full synchromesh three speeds.  The 57  that I have now has a 66 Ford full synchromesh 3 speed. That way I still have the three speed on the column and it looks sort of correct.  Seems like I have never been in the right place at the right time to find a Tremec 5 speed.   

[Ecode70D]

Am sure I'm not the only one totally ignorant on the "Swift Sure" brake system and why they're so special. So if someone out there wants to enlighten me with what is different from the norm it would be appreciated. Part numbers, diagrams etc....  would help tremendously.

Personally I prefer a non boosted dual chamber disc/drum master cylinder for safety and disc brakes for their non fading performance. That being said am always curious about good technology whether new or old.

Not my intent to hijack this thread just curious.

Zap-

Zap
     You are not hijacking this thread.  Ford's Swift Sure system is a mystery to me and I'm trying to learn as much as I can about it.  I finally have found the pieces to complete mine and would like to install it in my car.  At least I think that I have all the pieces.  So this is a learning process for me  .   

[SkylinerRon]

Swift-sure units work well with good pedal feel.
Rebuild kits are available now too.
Be sure to use a 1 1/8" bore m/c.
Goodluck,
Ron.