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Title: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-02 18:39
I've been hesitant to take a long trip because I still don't have a spare or jack. But this morning I bit the bullet and we just went with fingers crossed. The total trip was 192 miles round trip 90% mountain driving in 3000-5000 elevation with a couple of side dirt road excursions. First stop was the Devils Punchbowl ( 1st shot ), I did a one mile hike that almost killed me  :005: then continued through the mountains to the town of Wrightwood for lunch. On one dirt road excursion we saw a deer and her baby, the little one ran before the wife could take a shot through the windshield and you can just barely see the other on the road if you look closely. The Ranchero ran like a clock  :003: I have no idea what kind of mileage any of my 57's in the past got, back in those days I didn't care, so I still have to fill up again to see what this one got, just out of curiosity.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: BWhitmore on 2013-08-02 19:47
Jim - I have a bumper jack that is restored.  It is one of those jacks that I collected during my search for the proper 57 jack.  It has the base and lug wrench with it and it will work on your Ranchero.  You are welcome to it.  I prefer not to ship it but if you are in the Alhambra area anytime you can pick it up.  I am leaving town on Aug 11-23 but any other time is fine.  Give me a call at (213) 709-8904 before you come. 
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-02 21:28
Quote from: BWhitmore on 2013-08-02 19:47
Jim - I have a bumper jack that is restored.  It is one of those jacks that I collected during my search for the proper 57 jack.  It has the base and lug wrench with it and it will work on your Ranchero.  You are welcome to it.  I prefer not to ship it but if you are in the Alhambra area anytime you can pick it up.  I am leaving town on Aug 11-23 but any other time is fine.  Give me a call at (213) 709-8904 before you come.
Thank you Bill, I appreciate the offer. I will contact you after you return and come pick it up.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-02 21:55
Jim
   Yes I can see the deer in the picture.  Good shot!!!!!  you have to be fast to get a picture of them.
    Your car looks great.  I'm happy for you that it runs as good as it did on your trip and will be waiting for a final report on the gas mileage.  I hope that you use the bumper jack just for show and get a scissor jack or a small hydraulic one for actually jacking it up in an emergency. 
     Are you running a Y block?   Jay     
     
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Frankenstein57 on 2013-08-02 22:01
Jim, I mounted this case in the back of the bed, I keep a cheap floor jack, socket set, wrench set in there. Also a little detail bag for shows or cruise in nights. Note the sticker in the rear window!  Mark
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: 57AGIN on 2013-08-03 01:50
James & Guys:

Speaking of "stickers," I proudly display mine for all to see, on both sides of 57 AGIN.  I'm hoping to see it and the stickers soon in a Modified Mustangs and Fords magazine article.  I get plenty of comments and questions about the stickers and have given out all the ones that James sent me some time ago.

Bob
57 AGIN
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-03 07:11
Love that shot of your car...are you guys havin' quakes again?
JMHO, but if James runs some more stickers, I think it would be cool to have the .com at the bottom of the sticker..added to(below) the existing image.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 07:36
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-02 21:55
Jim
   Yes I can see the deer in the picture.  Good shot!!!!!  you have to be fast to get a picture of them.
    Your car looks great.  I'm happy for you that it runs as good as it did on your trip and will be waiting for a final report on the gas mileage.  I hope that you use the bumper jack just for show and get a scissor jack or a small hydraulic one for actually jacking it up in an emergency. 
     Are you running a Y block?   Jay     
   
Jay, I had planned on getting a hydraulic jack but a bumper jack will work fine in an emergency, I used them all the time years ago and never had a problem. And how often do you get a flat, I can only recall getting one in the last 30 years. Mine is a stock 292 with a small 4V Holley off road carb and Pertronix ignition. As soon as it gets daylight I will go fill it up and see what the actual gallons are and report back. When we arrived home it showed half a tank on the gauge but have you ever noticed there are more gallons in the first half then the last half  :003:
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 07:42
Quote from: Frankenstein57 on 2013-08-02 22:01
Jim, I mounted this case in the back of the bed, I keep a cheap floor jack, socket set, wrench set in there. Also a little detail bag for shows or cruise in nights. Note the sticker in the rear window!  Mark
I had considered doing something like that but I have a small box with sockets, wrenches, set of points etc that I have to shuffle between 3 cars now which I rather do then having a separate set for each one. I don't do cruises or shows, in fact I hate even washing the thing, I just want to drive it  :003:
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 07:51
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-03 07:11
Love that shot of your car...are you guys havin' quakes again?
JMHO, but if James runs some more stickers, I think it would be cool to have the .com at the bottom of the sticker..added to(below) the existing image.
Funny you should mention that Rich, that whole area we traveled was actually along the San Andreas fault. Heres a few shots from our hike and you can see what quakes do to the geology. This area has two faults that intersect. Having the dot.com on the sticker is a good idea.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 10:04
Jay,
I really had to force it to get 12 gallons exactly in so that makes it 16mpg. That's ok for me considering the type of mountain driving. I'm sure it would do a little better if it was hiway driving. But for my first long trip I decided if I was going to experience any problems I would rather have them some place nice rather the on the side of some damn So Cal freeway  :003:
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: 6cyl57 on 2013-08-03 10:30
hiball, thanks for sharing the journey and great pictures. Ranchero looks great, I like the rims.
Also nice to see its not afraid of the gravel.

And 57again sure like that color combo on yours. Never get tired of seeing it.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-03 10:56
Beautiful Ranchero!.....great shots...very envious!
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 11:19
Thank you for all the nice comments guys, it turned out being a great day. We left at 6:00 am and when we got up in the mountains a little ways it got pretty cool and we dressed in shorts so I had to stop and manually turn on the valve on the intake manifold to get water to the heater, I'm still in need of a heater core with the control valve, and later in the morning I had to turn it off. Another thing to add to the list  :003:. I'm still stalling on doing the window channel and wind wing seal work.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: gasman826 on 2013-08-03 13:16
Nice trip!!!

Went on Power Tour (2200 miles) with no parts or spares.  Had a jack and cash.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 13:32
Quote from: gasman826 on 2013-08-03 13:16
Nice trip!!!

Went on Power Tour (2200 miles) with no parts or spares.  Had a jack and cash.
That was a small tip for me. It's amazing how these old Fords keep going, My last long trip last summer was LA to Chama NM plus a few side trips was 2100 miles in my 1960 F100 that has 442,000 miles on it, never skipped a beat. I carry a few extra parts but have never need them yet. The worst on road problem I had was when returning from Tuscon Arizona on the southern route through Yuma, I had a generator brush spring break at the Salton Sea and still made it to LA on just the battery..
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: 57AGIN on 2013-08-03 16:06
hiball3985:

Seeing those photos brings back some distant fond memories.  When I was in collage I was an Earth Science major and had to do a field exercise at where the San Andreas fault crosses the I-15.  We had to do a plane table survey and climb up and down the cliffs and exposures to take the strike and dip of the formations.  Then we had to explain how the formations got they way they are now.  We spent about 8 weekends doing the field work, it was interesting and I got a good grade in the class.  Fortunately, I was only 30 at the time.  No way I could do that now.  Going to the WinterNationals and World Finals at Pomona and climbing up and down the stands is about all that kind of exercise I can do now.  Also, sitting beside/behind Rick's & my car in a comfortable chair at car shows gives me plenty of good outdoor time now days.  LOL

Bob
57 AGIN
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-03 16:26
Bob,
Thats cool. I know exactly where that is in the Cajon Pass, I spend time up there frequently. The fault created a little lake in that area also, Lost Lake. It was my research as to why the lake was there that I found out I was on the fault line  :003:
I hear you about grandstands, I don't do drags anymore but climb the ones at Calif Speedway  :005:.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Ecode70D on 2013-08-03 22:17
[quote author=hiball3985 link=topic=I really had to force it to get 12 gallons exactly in so that makes it 16mpg. That's ok for me considering the type of mountain driving. I'm sure it would do a little better if it was hiway driving. But for my first long trip I decided if I was going to experience any problems I would rather have them some place nice rather the on the side of some damn So Cal freeway  [/quote]

   Jim  In my mind,16 is good.  I would be happy if I can get that with my Y block whenever I do get the car done and on the road.  The truth is that I don't expect much with the dual quads.
       It's wonderful that you and your wife are enjoying the car and thanks for sharing your trip with us.  Jay
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: 57AGIN on 2013-08-03 22:29
 hiball3985 & Others:

Sorry about hijacking the topic on this thread, but honestly didn't know where else to respond.  Highball, you are correct about the location.  My wife's family had a two story "cabin" up in Wrightwood, about 10 miles North West as the crow flies.  When I was dating her in the mid-60's, I asked her if her parents were aware they had built directly on top of the San Andreas Fault.  She didn't know.  Well, it is still standing and there hasn't been a major quake on that fault since then.  But, one is surely overdue and the rest of Southern California will more than likely get our share of it.  IMO waiting for the next quake is going to be a longer wait than that the rest of the country faces in relation to the various weather related problems that has struck in the last few years.

Bob
57 AGIN
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-04 07:26
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-03 22:17
Jim  In my mind,16 is good.  I would be happy if I can get that with my Y block whenever I do get the car done and on the road.  The truth is that I don't expect much with the dual quads.
       It's wonderful that you and your wife are enjoying the car and thanks for sharing your trip with us.  Jay
Jay, I wouldn't expect yours to do any worst, it's more relevant to how you drive, gearing etc.
Lets say you are cruising at 2500 rpm, the engine can only take in so much CFM air/fuel that the cam and head design will allow, it doesn't matter if you have one carb or six. You may actually get better mileage with the duals because of better fuel distribution. I was happy with the 16mpg, being mountain driving I was pushing it a little on the straight a ways, braking fairly hard for the corners since this is the first 57 I've had with disc brakes. I'm really a road racer at heart  :003: I'll be getting one of the big sway bar set ups in the near future.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-04 07:42
Quote from: 57AGIN on 2013-08-03 22:29
hiball3985 & Others:

Sorry about hijacking the topic on this thread, but honestly didn't know where else to respond.  Highball, you are correct about the location.  My wife's family had a two story "cabin" up in Wrightwood, about 10 miles North West as the crow flies.  When I was dating her in the mid-60's, I asked her if her parents were aware they had built directly on top of the San Andreas Fault.  She didn't know.  Well, it is still standing and there hasn't been a major quake on that fault since then.  But, one is surely overdue and the rest of Southern California will more than likely get our share of it.  IMO waiting for the next quake is going to be a longer wait than that the rest of the country faces in relation to the various weather related problems that has struck in the last few years.

Bob
57 AGIN
Bob, no problem hijacking any of my threads by you or anyone else. I don't do any of the social media stuff, just a couple of forums so add what ever you like. I enjoy hearing others stories or info on anything.
I had a similar situation, my parents bought a cabin in Frazier Park right on the fault line in the early 70's and then retired there. I had to move them back down here in about 2000 when it got too much for them to be on there own. They are 92 now and just celebrated the 70th wedding anniversary. I'm their main care taker now. And to semi keep this on track we came from NY and drove to Arizona where we first lived in a brand new 57 that my dad bought for the trip..

I'm only 8-10 mile as the crow flies from the fault that caused the Northridge quake, we went for a pretty good ride that morning and I rode out the Sylmar quake in 71-72? So I believe it can happen on the San Andreas at anytime, there's no way of knowing. I did set up some quake supplies in 55 gallon drums. I just hope I never need them.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Tom S on 2013-08-06 14:56
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-04 07:42
Bob, no problem hijacking any of my threads by you or anyone else. ... I enjoy hearing others stories or info on anything.
Oh! That's good!
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-02 18:39... we saw a deer
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-03 07:11...are you guys havin' quakes again?
'Cause with all this talk about earthquakes & mentioning the deer I can't resist mentioning the big deer (*moose!) & quakes we that we have around here.  *Yes, moose are the biggest species of the deer family.*

Check out the size of this guy when he walks past the fence gate.
(Click the pic, very short vid)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/vids/th_AIRPORTMOOSE4MPEG2FILEMPG.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/vids/AIRPORTMOOSE4MPEG2FILEMPG.mp4)

Then there is stuff like this ... (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/lol.gif)   
They show up in my yard fairly often.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/critters/noseatthewindow.jpg)

You don't want to hit one!

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/critters/mooseintraffic2.jpg)

March 1964 9.2 quake.  The old main drag, downtown, 4th Avenue, got a major ... revamp?

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/EARTHQUAKE4thAVE.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/PG32.jpg)


This upper class subdivision was named "Turnagain by the Sea".  A lot of ended up being "Turnagain IN the Sea".  Hard to see in this first pic but there are houses all around down there.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/PG12--.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/PG12---.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/PG12---------.jpg)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/PG83-.jpg)

It was bad but places like Valdez (Val-Dees), Seward, Kodiak had it worse when hit by the tsunami. Some smaller places were completely washed away & they moved what was left of Valdez. 

OK, sorry 'bout that.  (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/hide.gif)   
Please don't ban me.  It's not like I put a Che brand X in a Ford.  (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/smilies/uhoh.gif)  Put a 351W in a guy's brand X Love Truck once. :001:

Back on topic ...
Hiball & Frankenstein, I do envy your beautiful Rancheros.  I know mine will never be near as nice.
16 mpg too! Wow, that's good!
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-06 15:04
We got no Quakes.. but lots and lots of Bullwinkles... yea.don't hit one..... they always win.... and stay away from the men folk Bullwinkles when there in rut.....big trouble hahahah
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Tom S on 2013-08-06 15:16
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-06 15:04.... and stay away from the men folk Bullwinkles when there in rut.....big trouble
Guaranteed bigger trouble if you are anywhere near a cow with a calf or two.  More people get killed by moose up here than bears.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/critters/DSC00594.jpg)

And believe me any of them suckers with those big long legs can move.  I swear I've seen them doing 30 mph right thru the thick woods & brush right in front of my house.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-06 15:41
Thats cool, no Bullwinkles down here, just deer, bear, and rattlers. I sure wouldn't want to mess with one or even hit one. I've seen cars totally destroyed from just hitting deer. I had an older cousin who was stationed in Alaska in the late 50's and they hit a deer returning to the base in a jeep, the two guys in the front got killed, my cousin and another guy in the back survived with major injuries. Stop talking about quakes, you are making me nervous  :003:
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Tom S on 2013-08-06 16:18
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-06 15:41I had an older cousin who was stationed in Alaska in the late 50's and they hit a deer returning to the base in a jeep, the two guys in the front got killed, my cousin and another guy in the back survived with major injuries.
Hit a deer or a moose?  We don't have deer here in Southcentral or farther North, just moose.  But they do have deer in Southeast & Kodiak.  Yeah people in cars have died.  In the 50s & 60s hit one & the moose would sometimes roll over the hood, still be kicking with it's legs thru the windshield & thrashing around.
In a jeep you would really be screwed. 
Seems like anymore most people seem to be getting killed by getting stomped.  There is a vid of one such case.  Guy screwed up.
Quote from: hiball3985Stop talking about quakes, you are making me nervous  :003:
OK.   :003:

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/vids/th_EQ3.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/vids/EQ3.flv)

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/th_EQ20Valdez-Chena.jpg) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/Earthquake/EQ20Valdez-Chena.flv)

That first one really is quite realistic & has just a little actual footage.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-06 17:55
Lots a shakin' going on there. Your moose pics make me miss living in the country. In Colorado we had deer in our yard every day....two different herds used the same path thru my back yard..one herd going up the mountain, the other down. One day both herds met and I counted 28 in my back yard...about 1/4 of them bucks. An occational p.i.t.a. bear, only once a mountain lion. One year a deer gave birth in our back yard and kept the fawn there. Three times a day, she'd come get the fawn out from under our shed (back of it raised up on posts), nurse it, walk it around the yard, and then coax it back under the shed. She was like clockwork..never more than 10 minutes off.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: 57AGIN on 2013-08-06 18:04
Wow, after seeing that there just isn't anything to be said.  I looked through the book about the big quake in New Zeeland that Alan & Julie sent me from Christ Church, NZ.  I thought that was bad, but I believe the Valdez quake and the resulting tsunami was probably worse.  My daughter was almost born during the 1971 Sylmar Quake in Southern California, but it was nothing compared to those quakes.

Bob
57 AGIN
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: hiball3985 on 2013-08-06 18:31
Quote from: Tom S on 2013-08-06 16:18
Hit a deer or a moose?  We don't have deer here in Southcentral or farther North, just moose.  But they do have deer in Southeast & Kodiak. 
I have no idea what part of Alaska it was, that was maybe 1958-59 and I was only 11-12 years old and I have a hard time remembering what happened yesterday  :003:
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Tom S on 2013-08-07 06:20
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-06 17:55
One year a deer gave birth in our back yard and kept the fawn there. Three times a day, she'd come get the fawn out from under our shed (back of it raised up on posts), nurse it, walk it around the yard, and then coax it back under the shed.
Didn't know they would do that.  The cow moose & calves always stay right together.  Moose don't herd up either.
Every spring some cows & brand new calves show up here & graze/rest/ camp out in the back yard for a while.  Fine with me & I leave them alone. Lots of pix.
It's funny to see those little calves all flaked out like a dog.  There were two or three different cows that seemed to show up every year.  I could tell them apart by some big scars they had like the one in the pic above.  I am guessing that a bear almost got them when they were pretty young.
Thankfully no mountain lions around here.
Pretty exciting when a bull shows up chasing a cow around during rutting season.

(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/TomIII/critters/moosespam.jpg)
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-07 10:00
State (federal?) laws prohibit people from touching fawns they find alone, because most people assume they are lost, or have been abandoned, and that's not the case...mom's just out foraging for herself, or shopping for '57 Ford parts, but will be back(unless she's been hit by someone in a '57 Ford). They have big time fines in Colorado for picking up a fawn.
Title: Re: first semi long distance ride
Post by: Frankenstein57 on 2013-08-07 20:59
You aren't kidding, there was just a big story on the news around here, some guy was nursing a fawn along, the DNR got wind of it , moved in and wound up putting it down. Seems kind of strange when game farms keep them for canned hunts.  Mark