I was in Mass. for a short time.. doing some business and seeing close friends... had the whole family in tow... but I did manage to visit Ecode and take a look at his 57.
Jay is a super individual with a ton of knowledge..... Wish I had more time to chat with him at his shop.
His Ecode 57 is Killer.
Jay... thanks very much for the invite..... I will be back!
Jay is getting ready to paint the car.
.....some pics.
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Some more pics.....
Thanks again Jay!
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Thanks for the pictures Jeff. It's looking good Jay. I want your the steering wheel and horn button SO bad
That is so cool. What a hat!
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-14 11:42
I was in Mass. for a short time.. doing some business and seeing close friends... had the whole family in tow... but I did manage to visit Ecode and take a look at his 57.
Jay is a super individual with a ton of knowledge..... Wish I had more time to chat with him at his shop.
His Ecode 57 is Killer.
Jay... thanks very much for the invite..... I will be back!
Jay is getting ready to paint the car.
.....some pics.
Wow!!!!!
Jeff Are you home already?
I hope that you had a safe trip. There was a lot of 57 stuff that we did not have time to cover. Sorry that your visit was so short. It was a real pleasure to have you here. You are the first member of the forum that I have met, although I feel that I would have crossed paths with Rich at some of the Mass drive ins that we both frequented in the old days a long time ago. We will be keeping in touch.
Guys I'm sorry that my 57 was in such deplorable condition when Jeff was here and the the pictures were taken. The little pieces of blue tape all over the car are little reminders that I have to do that spot over again. I'm looking to paint it about the last week of August. Jay
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-14 13:40
Thanks for the pictures Jeff. It's looking good Jay. I want your the steering wheel and horn button SO bad
Jim
You are welcome to that steering wheel when I take it off after the car is painted. At the moment I just want to keep my mind in focus on getting it ready for paint. Seems like little spots that need more block sanding just appear from nowhere.
That wheel is a pretty nice one but it is not the correct one for my car. The horn button is correct though. If there are any cracks in it, they will have to be very small. PM your shipping address to me when you get a chance.
Enclosed is a picture of the Custom steering wheel that I got from "Frankenstein". I restored it during the winter.
Sure am glad that my mechanical work is all done.
Is there ever an end to block sanding??? I ain't getting any younger! Jay
Thanks Jay, that one is way better then the one I have, mine has cracks like the Grand Canyon.
I'll gladly reimburse you for the shipping and what ever else you need..
Jim
Jim
I received your PM and that steering wheel has your name on it. I'm not sure if I have a horn button with the ring around it though. I'll look through my stuff and see if I have one and get back to you.
You probably can't see it in my picture, but the custom wheel does not have the cutout for the horn ring on the spokes.
Jay
Jim - I have a real nice horn ring that you are welcome to. It has an 58 NOS center button but they are easy to change. Give me a call at 213 7098904 on Aug 23.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-14 22:54
Jim
I received your PM and that steering wheel has your name on it. I'm not sure if I have a horn button with the ring around it though. I'll look through my stuff and see if I have one and get back to you.
You probably can't see it in my picture, but the custom wheel does not have the cutout for the horn ring on the spokes.
Jay
Jay, I have one with the ring, but I want the small center one like yours. I know your whell has the cut out for the ring but it is way better then mine. If I find one without the cutout someday I will pass yours on to someone who needs it.
Quote from: BWhitmore on 2013-08-14 22:59
Jim - I have a real nice horn ring that you are welcome to. It has an 58 NOS center button but they are easy to change. Give me a call at 213 7098904 on Aug 23.
Thank you for the offer Bill, I have a full ring now, that's what I want to change to the small center.
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-15 00:00
Jay, I have one with the ring, but I want the small center one like yours. I know your whell has the cut out for the ring but it is way better then mine. If I find one without the cutout someday I will pass yours on to someone who needs it.
Jim
When I send you the steering wheel you will find a small button center button attached to it. I have a spare small button one that should go to a good home. I like the thought of your passing mine on to someone else when you find the correct one.
That was nice of BWitmore to offer you his spare one with the ring.
I learned something about helping others on this forum when Rich sent me a door latch that I needed to replace the worn out one that was on my car. Jay
I also failed to mention Jay is working on a killer 2 door Del Rio Wagon.... very solid car. Although not mentioned he has a killer 40 ford coupe and some awesome 34 Fords.
I had such a great visit.....
Thanks again Jay!!!
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-15 04:06
Jim
When I send you the steering wheel you will find a small button center button attached to it. I have a spare small button one that should go to a good home. I like the thought of your passing mine on to someone else when you find the correct one.
That was nice of BWitmore to offer you his spare one with the ring.
I learned something about helping others on this forum when Rich sent me a door latch that I needed to replace the worn out one that was on my car. Jay
Jay, I have found this is a great community of people willing to help others with info, parts or what ever it takes to get the 57's going. I hope I can do the same in return some day.
I have met Bill and seen his gorgeous Ranchero. He is a very generous gentleman. I bought a spare 292 engine from him and he donated the money to the tornado victims, that made our dealings sweet and left me with a great feeling.
Man, is this a "feel-good" thread or what??!! Somebody says "I like your steering wheel" and it's gonna be sent cross country to him...and another going to send a horn ring.....awesome. Great bunch of guys here.
I am really glad to see you guys are continuing with the pics with member's in them. Great to see what you guys look like. I also noticed last week Bill (Fordblueblood) posted a pic of his Shelby on Pikes Peak...with him in it! keep 'em coming!
Jay, your e code is looking fantastic. Not that I regret painting my car by any means, but mine was in the grey primer(like yours) for so long that I kinda missed it when it got painted over. That front seat upholstery is awesome..is that the original oem? Your property makes me miss New England. That is a great hat, but I'm curious about your tee shirt. Are you of Native American heritage? Native Americans in the southwest are a large part of out population, but it is so rare, at least it was for me, to meet one in the Northeast.
Great pics, Jeff, thanks for posting. I assume that's you with the goatee? Glad you had a good trip.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2013-08-15 06:07
I also failed to mention Jay is working on a killer 2 door Del Rio Wagon.... very solid car. Although not mentioned he has a killer 40 ford coupe and some awesome 34 Fords.
I had such a great visit.....
Thanks again Jay!!!
Jeff
I not going to do much with the 2dr wagon until I get a title for it.
Sorry that you never got a chance to go for a ride in any of the cars. I hope that you have more time on the next trip. It was a pleasure meeting and talking 57s with you.
I know that your going to do the right thing with custom and it is going to be a beautiful car when you finish it. You picked a nice car to start with. Jay
Rich, I'm from the northeast originally. It's easy to forget the the whole northeast was populated with Native Americans before we showed up. Many town, rivers, lakes, etc. have Indian names. I don't know all the different tribes but I'm sure Jay can fill us in on that.
And to keep thing on a 57 theme, my first ride in a 57 when I was 10 was in a brand new one my dad bought for our move from New York to Arizona, our old Studebaker won't make it that far :003:
Yes Rich. that's me and my jr.beard..... ha ha ha.
As long as we are half off track on the subject matter again, and Rich mentioned this being a "Feel Good thread" I just wanted to mention that the Holidays will be here shortly. I would like to encourage people to try and purchase things like Xmas cards from charitable organization, museums or what ever groups you may support that rely on public support. Hallmark, K-Mart etc. don't need the money as bad as some others. Sorry, this popped into my head as I ordered cards this morning from a museum. I'll get off my soapbox and go back to the garage :006:
quote hiball:"Rich, I'm from the northeast originally. It's easy to forget the the whole northeast was populated with Native Americans before we showed up."
Exactly why I was curious about Jay's heritage. As you said, when we were growing up there, we were aware of all the names referencing The Indian history, but I think most of us back in the 60's considered it just that...history. I wasn't aware there were decendents of the Northeast Native Americans still around. My first eye opening was when they built that little casino in Connecticut on Tribal land. Before that I didn't know there was tribal land in the NE.
LOL..little casino...went there once. The parking lot is so big they run regular buses in the parking lot in case you get stuck parking a 1/2 mile or so away from the casino.
Rich
I like the primer too and mine was not that bad looking when I first applied it. Now it's all blotchy from fixing small spots and touching it up here and there. The tops of the fenders are very "touchy and easy to dent". I spent most of the day fixing them from the dents that I MADE while working on the car. Talk about going one step forward and three steps backwards. I keep getting tempted to stop looking and just paint it and get it over with.
If my finish paint comes out nearly as shiny as yours, I will be very very happy. The problem is that the spray gun is getting a bit heavy when holding it up and painting a roof hood and deck lid. It must be the gun because I don't want to admit that my arms are getting tired.
The interior and seat are from ABC which was bought out by LeBarron Bonney. I matched it up with some of my original fabric and it looks dead on to me. I did the installation myself and added a little more padding to the seat. So I suppose that is sort of OEM.
Yep I'm Native American 100% quantum. There are still some of us around,but very few around here.. I don't travel around and participate in the functions anymore because I have to spend more and more time taking care of my wife.
Jay,
I noticed how good you seat looked and wondered if it was original, nice repo. Does any one make door panels? Mine have custom, but they are old and need to be replaced.
Jay...great job on the seat (singular...I know there's no back one!)by both LaBonney and yourself. Nice Job.
Those spray guns do get heavy after a very short time don't they. Also I'm guessing from the pic with Jeff, either he's about 6'8'', or you're "height challenged" like me. That makes it difficult to paint the roof. I had a particular problem because of the metalics. I actually painted my car main body in stages because of this. To paint the roof, I lowered the car as much as posible..tires off, just the old drums sitting on wheel dollies. I also went to lowe's and picked up two 20" tall aluminum folding interior type platforms. They are too short on the length to walk the roof, so I cut the outer channeling in the center of the platforms, unriveted the center sections, and replaced them with 2x6's, 6 foot long. Worked great, about an 80 dollar investment for the pair, but they've come in handy working on the house also. I can take a pic and post if you want.
Jay, my memory really stinks,. You probably said before, but are you single staging it or base/clear?
Man, I'd sure like to be able to sit down over a pot of coffee and hear about your heritage. That's so cool, and I think something to be really proud of.
Edit...I went back and looked at the pic of you with Jeff. For some reason I thought he was much taller than you...but only a few inches. You both look short next to the '57!
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2013-08-15 16:24
Jay,
I noticed how good you seat looked and wondered if it was original, nice repo. Does any one make door panels? Mine have custom, but they are old and need to be replaced.
Jim
This is what the door panels look like. That is exactly as I remember them back in the day. I only stuck them on so I could take pictures for the insurance co. I'll attach them with the clips after the car is painted.
LeBarron Bonney will make a pair for you. Just Goggle them and you will get the contact information. I had my interior done in stock like OEM colors. They will do color changes. Just talk to them and don't forget to ask them for color samples. I have no idea how many kits I got from them over the years to do all of the 33/34 Fords that I restored.
You can see that I didn't spend a lot of time cleaning the steering wheel that I temporarily installed loosely just to get the car moving.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-15 20:58
Edit...I went back and looked at the pic of you with Jeff. For some reason I thought he was much taller than you...but only a few inches. You both look short next to the '57!
That's right...No back seat. I haven't figured out how to roll the back windows though.
I'm only about 5'6". That's the reason I stated previously that I built up the seat with padding. I need to see over that big steering wheel. Back in the old days I always needed a cushion to drive my brother's 57 custom.
The roof spraying situation is all figured out with milk crates and boards. That's how I straightened the roof that was all caved in. When I first got the car, it looked like someone did a war dance on it.. I straightened it without making any holes in it. I also have to remember not to step backwards to look at it while I'm on my home brew staging.
The paint will be single stage.
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2013-08-15 22:27
Jim
This is what the door panels look like. That is exactly as I remember them back in the day. I only stuck them on so I could take pictures for the insurance co. I'll attach them with the clips after the car is painted.
LeBarron Bonney will make a pair for you. Just Google them and you will get the contact information. I had my interior done in stock like OEM colors. They will do color changes. Just talk to them. Jay
Thanks Jay, that's what I want, I'll check them out. I used milk crates and 2x12 boards also when I painted my panel truck..
Jay...If you figure out how to get those 70D back windows down let us know. :003:
Hiball...the Lebarron bonney link is on our list of supplier links. :burnout:
Jeff thanks for sharing your visit. What a great opportunity to share with another '57 Ford guy.
I am really excited on how the E-code car will come out. I'm so glad it was saved.
Looks like the right guy is building it right for sure.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-08-16 09:08
Hiball...the Lebarron bonney link is on our list of supplier links. :burnout:
OOOOPS, I missed it, blind in one eye can't see out of the other :003: Thanks Rich
Quote from: suede57ford on 2013-08-16 09:18
Jeff thanks for sharing your visit. What a great opportunity to share with another '57 Ford guy.
I am really excited on how the E-code car will come out. I'm so glad it was saved.
Looks like the right guy is building it right for sure.
Absolutely Pat.... That Jay fella is doing it so right!
Jay.. missed your call.....Just busy.I will try you in the next day or so
Quote from: suede57ford on 2013-08-16 09:18
Jeff thanks for sharing your visit. What a great opportunity to share with another '57 Ford guy.
I am really excited on how the E-code car will come out. I'm so glad it was saved.
Looks like the right guy is building it right for sure.
Suede 57 Thanks for the kind comment.. Sometimes I get a bit picky about little original things but like I stated before. " I'm not changing anything on this car that can't be bolted back to as OEM in one day. In my opinion, we are just caretakers of these fine automobiles and certain ones should not be changed..
PS In my honest opinion for the sake of 57 Fords. This car "NEEDED TO BE SAVED" and brought back to life. The next step for this one was the crusher. When that happens, they are gone forever. Jay Arrow