Installing my door seals today unless some one tells me I'm missing something. In the instructions it's telling me to install the extrusion, well that's my question.....extrusion? I'm guessing it's some sort of clip. I'm younger then most so go easy. Thanks HRD.
I would think the extrusion is the seal.. What instructions are you reading?
Youngins! Geeez....an "extrusion" is made when malable materials are forced thru an extrusion die which gradually changes the shape of the material..sort of like morphing a photograph. I don't know for sure, but in the case of rubber, I suspect the "ingredients" of the rubber compound are mixed at one end of the extrusion machine, and it is forced thru the dies as the rubber is setting up. The most common material used for producing extrusions is probably aluminum.
So, the short answer to your question is...it's the rubber.
Well having surfed the Internet I've come realize that maybe extrusion is not a clip!
Okay, I understand extrusion. Thanks Rich for being so smart and making me look stupid in front of the Internet world, or did I do that on my own?
Probably not, only because I'm not remembering any clips that were installed with the seal. Not to confuse things, but a clip wouldn't be called an extrusion, but could be made from an extrusion.
Tip....when you glue your seal on, watch the area near the latch where the door lock clip goes. When I did mine, I cut a piece of matboard to slide in the slot for the clip, and cover the lip of the door so glue wouldn't get on it in that 1 1/2 or so area. After I got the seal attached, I just pulled out the matboard.
guess I should have used a smiley...sorry about that. Sure didn't mean to offend...I thought you were trying to understand what an extrusion was. :003:
Thanks Rich, :001: All you guys have been helpful, wish I was a member when I first started. HRD
Hiball3985 your right, it is the rubber, which I had no idea, just the way I read the instructions made me think there was some sort of extrusion clips. So I'm going out to glue on my seals Thanks again....I'll keep you posted on my success.
Quote from: hotroddonnie on 2013-12-08 11:59
Hiball3985 your right, it is the rubber, which I had no idea, just the way I read the instructions made me think there was some sort of extrusion clips. So I'm going out to glue on my seals Thanks again....I'll keep you posted on my success.
Donnie, please do keep us posted both on what vender you got them from and the results.
Just remember that the door will be a little tuff to shut with the new seal.Especialy with a sedan.Do not adjust around this.It will find itself in time.
Rich
You need to get away from that cold weather and snow in Texas. Could you just come out here where it's warm and install my door seals for me? This past week We've been having a heat wave in the upper 40's.
Thank you very much. Jay.
Donnie.. Sorry I'm invading your thread.
Hiball3985 used Dennis Carpenter, and it went well drivers door so far, about 30 min to do. Passenger side later, I found something else to do next.
F57ford It definitely is tuff to close, but like you said I'll just give it time.
Jay all good. Are you getting ready to do door seals as well?
I'm using Carpenter and I taped them in place for a trial fit. The left driver side works great and the right side is terrible. What's going on?
HRD I'm not going to glue them in just yet because the garage does not warm up enough for the glue to work properly. I may just tape them in and close the doors against them until spring time. Hopefully they will take a set on their own. It shouldn't hurt anything.
OOPS! I hope Rich doesn't read this because I just told him that it's warm out here. Looks like I got caught in a lie.
I've only done the drivers side, and its tuff to close, but I'm doing some other stuff on the car. I will tackle the other side some time next week. I am lucky to have a heated garage I wouldn't be half as far on this car if I didn't.
Mine is heated also, but it's huge and it only gets to a comfortable 50. It's still too cool for painting and spreading glue.
Well then I guess I should say I'm lucky enough to have a small garage that's easy to heat :001:
What a difference 24 little hrs make! I'm down to one hand to close my door, yesterday it was two. Tomorrow it'll be my baby finger.
I just got off the phone with Jeff and he told me about your door seals before I even had a chance to read it myself.
Hope you're right and hope I'm that lucky.
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Just wishful thinkin Ecode70. I think it's gonna be a tuff close for a while. Having an extrusion lesson from Rich, I can say that on my seal it is tight right at the largest extrusion, just under were the front window wraps around.
And after all that BS I threw at you about extrusions, I got to thinking I really misspoke on that. I really don't know what your instructions were talking about because the door seals are in fact probably not extrusions. An extrusion would be the same shape, size, crossection..whatever you want to call it...all the way around..just a rope, sort of speak, glued at the ends. these door seals vary in size and shape at different areas, if I remember without actually going and looking, so they must be moulded. It's posible I guess they are using an extrusion, then gluing (forgot the term for gluing rubber) added material in areas. Not trying to give another lesson...just clarifying what I mispoke about originally.
Weather you misspoke or not Rich, in some way I feel smarter, and your not taking that away, I was an average kid in school rarely ever getting much more then a (B). So to you sir I say MR.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2013-12-09 23:43
then gluing (forgot the term for gluing rubber) added material in areas.
vulcanize?
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2013-12-10 07:13
vulcanize?
That was my first thought also but I think vulcanizing requires heat ?
believe vulcanize is the process of curing rubber not cementing rubber. may be wrong but its what I remember Goodyear developing way back in the day.
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By the time this thread runs out....were all gonna be smarter!
Quote from: hotroddonnie on 2013-12-10 11:14
By the time this thread runs out....were all gonna be smarter!
YEP, real rocket science going on here :003: Zap is right, and vulcanizing comes from the Greek God Vulcan the God of fire. I only know that from working at Vulcan Materials for a few years.
It's my turn now!
Bonding
What about gluing?
Gluing would be old school easy :003:, we live in a high tech world now where everything has to be complicated :005:
Quote from: hotroddonnie on 2013-12-10 11:14
By the time this thread runs out....were all gonna be smarter!
Some of this stuff they used to teach us in grade school, and back then most of us wondered when if ever we would ever have a need for it, now I know.
Back on topic, really doubt that any full loop door seals are anything but molded one piece units. I have one for an offshore mini truck that never got used and will look it over and see if it has any seams. And it has several locating pins and of course the rib we are calling ,for lack of a better term,an extrusion.
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I believe the windshield seals are extrusions, cut and glued/seamed. BTW, they do sell "vulcanizing cement"...not sure what it does but Graingers has it...LOL...252.00 for a 5 gal. pail if you need some
Wish SkylinerRon would join in this conversation since he has contacts , ''dad'' , at Carpenters. Maybe he can give us the straight skinny for us all.
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