Since the topic of Alternators came up recently... and how they were available on Taxi cabs and police cars......I tried to find anything that would show what they really had back in 57.Hard subject to research.While there are a few recreations of Police cars...very few are accurate.
Since there was no hard and fast sheet on buying a Police car.... each county,state or division could ask for what they wanted... 2 doors,4 doors,engine sizes etc etc.
I found no info on E-code or F-code pursuit vehicles.
But lots of interesting old photos of different Police divisions displaying the cars they had in service.(side note..My brother in law is a deputy chief of Paramedics in my home town and has a Pursuit car for his work.. new modern Ford with a supercharged mod engine and all the Police options known to man!....his car has more options than the police chiefs car!Every time I go home he takes me for a ride... very fun car....but I digress)
What started me on this search, was i was looking for a picture of one of those Alternators that the guys had mentioned with the rectifier .....no luck.
If someone today had and ACTUAL un touched 57 ford Police car.... it certainly would be unique and worth it's weight due to the rarity ....but ...I have never seen or come across a 57 Ford Police car today.....I mean a real one.. not a recreation....
Anyhow.... some very cool pics from the past......
Baltimore 2 door custom.....
A Mass. state wagon.... never saw one before....
NY State Patrol cars..... seems most Police cars were always the cheaper 300 series.... never seen a 500 series....
Even the Mounties were in on the Action..... Dudley Do-Right gets their man....
This looks to be the RCMP in British Columbia.
Baltimore's finest in the 2 door custom.... winter chains and all!
2 door Baltimore Safety Patrol.
Maybe Jay A---------------> and his brother bought one of these..... The Mass. cars
State PO PO ......
Never seen this trim application before on ANY 57 Ford.... looks 56...am I wrong?.... I dig the Peep mirror.....
These are re creations...I highly doubt they are actual re stored Pursuit cars... maybe.... but I don't see it.
If your gonna get Busted/..... do it in STYLE!
Michigan State ...even got his snows on..Ready for action.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2017-02-16 09:29
Never seen this trim application before on ANY 57 Ford.... looks 56...am I wrong?.... I dig the Peep mirror.....
I do believe that is actually a '58.
lots of really cool pics, Jeff. Thanks for taking the time to post.
You should check with Steve Pierce in 29 Palms. He has a couple. They may be ligit from the day.
Quote from: RICH MUISE on 2017-02-16 09:55
I do believe that is actually a '58.
lots of really cool pics, Jeff. Thanks for taking the time to post.
Dang.. your right Rich.. the front of the pic is cut off and now looking at the rear light....I believe your correct.Google is a liar! hahaha
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2017-02-16 09:26
Maybe Jay A---------------> and his brother bought one of these..... The Mass. cars
WOW Jeff. Thanks for finding that picture again for me. I used to have it, but my computer ate it and since I'm computer challenged, I couldn't find it again. Yes we did buy one just like that and for about another (as I recall) $50.00 they fixed the whip antenna holes and put a nice dark blue paint job on it. That car came with the alternator rectifier system that I was referring to on Jim's thread.
Since You did such a nice job , I'll let you have this old wooden boat in the background for 1/2 the price that I quoted yesterday.
When Günter was here, I tried selling it to him also and he didn't want it.
I LOVE your car Jay.
Cool old pics!
Last week I started watching the old Peter Gunn series on Amazon. In the first few episodes they used a '57 and a '58 for police vehicles, but after that they switched everything to mopar.
Marc..I have seen 57 Ad art on 57 Police cars(I may have some on the HD some where.. but I have a 58 Ad....(I collect old AD auto art)
The old ad art is always cool to see.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2017-02-16 09:29
Never seen this trim application before on ANY 57 Ford.... looks 56...am I wrong?.... I dig the Peep mirror.....
Jeff
That one is a 58 Ford. That's cool because it was the first year for the FE and they came with a 3 speed heavy duty Borg Warner transmission.
Marc....Found that 57 Police car art brochure....
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2017-02-16 10:26
Jeff
That one is a 58 Ford. That's cool because it was the first year for the FE and they came with a 3 speed heavy duty Borg Warner transmission.
I am breaking the 57 board law Jay....shhhh don't tell James.
So...Google made me a liar again...... a Fairlane Rag Police car.... this county had bucks!
Another neat shot.....
SC had a solution for them pesky Moonshiners.
Quote from: Jeff Norwell on 2017-02-16 10:30
I am breaking the 57 board law Jay....shhhh don't tell James.
You didn't break any laws because those cars came out in late 1957.
Not a 57...but a very neat shot and the best graphic design for a Police dept.I think the dept hired racers only...
Quote from: Ecode70D on 2017-02-16 10:35
You didn't break any laws because those cars came out in late 1957.
HAHAHAHHA.... Your hired!
Great collection of Police Car Photos. Randy in Wisconsin has some '57 Ford Police cars. Some are E-Codes and heavy duty cooling systems. I suppose a '57 Ford used in all weather would not have made it may years before being rusted away.
Jerry Christenson once told me that Minnesota Highway Patrol had some F-Code Supercharged cars. Once the blowers acted up, they would remove them and be left with a very low compression engine with an over rich carb, making them very poor pursuit vehicles after that.
Interesting Pat..I wonder what a heavy duty cooling system would consist of?... bigger W/P.. bigger bearing section?.... I am fascinated with the early stuff.
There is a specified parts list for the 57 Police Cars. Has the "E" and "F" Code Part numbers as well as the alternator part number and more!
Oldmics
Maybe a better fan and quality rad hoses?
way too cool pics, Jeff !!!! :004: WOW !
No doubt, this is one the best coolest threads EVER!!!!!
The heavy duty radiator had such a wide core it actually was wider than the side straps.
My 57 with factory A/C has the thicker radiator, 5 blade fan, different waterpump pulley and group 27 battery
with the wider battery box.
Ron.
Oldmics... that is gold..... I would love to look through those pages.Great piece of history.
Pat/Ron... that's very interesting..... I really love this kind of lost factory stuff.
Jeff
You did a great job of finding all of this information on those lovely 57 Ford police cars. There is no way that I could have done something like that.
Thank you very much. Jay
Ahhhh Jay....I like doing research.... I think I only scraped the surface.... your welcome.......I just LOVE all aspects of the 57 Ford....
And All the guys that added to this thread also......That is why I love this board....Small, intimate and so much great info......
Alabama state trooper magazine 2012 had a tribute to the 57
That's Killer Jim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had a friend in the 70's who was travelling thru Alabama and got stopped in a small town as they were passing thru going home North.....
Trooper "Where you boys from?"
Friend " We are coming back from Florida ,going home to Canada...."
Trooper "Canada?"
Friend "Yes Sir."
Trooper "How long y'all planning to stay in our fine town.?"
Friend " We thought we would hang out for a few days,see what goes on and leave on Saturday sometime."
Trooper "Make it Friday."
Ha ha ha......
So Jim.... when i see that trooper Picture...I think of that story.
That's too funny Jeff :003: I'm pretty sure that in the 70's if your were a hippie, black or a foreigner they wanted you out of town ASAP :burnout:
Revel has models also.
http://www.svensworldofwheels.com/57_ford_police_page.html
Its '58. I had a 4 door back in the day. I have an original '57 Police Vehicle brochure if anyone is interested in a color photo copy. As I recall they show a side trim for the Custom 300 that I don't think was ever produced.
Jeff:
In 2007 I was able to ask Steve Pierce our local 57 parts supplier to loan us one of his 57 Movie Police Cars. It wasn't original, as it had a FE 352 for power and the automatic trans was on its last legs (bolts). I took it to both the Seal Beach Show and to the Knott's show. It drew a lot of attention and the two shows were a lot of fun. The car is back up in Twentynine Palms, CA. I also believe he has a former Air Force Military Police car and I think it was an original. these first attachments are from the Seal Beach Show. We staged a shot of Rick's 57 Custom 300 being "pulled over" by the movie car.
Bob
57 AGIN
Jeff:
The next series of shots are of the 57 Movie Police Car being featured in the Milestone area at the 2007 Fabulous Fords Forever Car Show at Knott's Berry Farm. Again, the 57 movie car was a big favorite and that was a memorable day when Rick and I convinced the Ford Car Club Council to feature a single year of our favorite Ford vehicles. The 1st photo is of the group of 57's that were featured in the milestone area, among which was a Country Squire that was featured on the cover of Hemmings, a Fairlane 500 sponsored by Lucas Oil and featured in a Super Bowl commercial, a Sunliner, a Skyliner, an F-Code Ranchero and the 57 Movie Car. In the last photo I took a photo of my son-in-law in the traditional "up against the fender and spread em" pose.
Bob
57 AGIN
Bob..... that's fantastic..Thanks for sharing!
These two were in a Disney movie. They are not original police cars, but painted for the movie.
I almost feel sorry for this trooper :003:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2017-03-05 11:17
I almost feel sorry for this trooper :003:
Why am I thinking of Bill....... :002:
Some people love them, some hate them :003: I have a friend who is always trying to talk me into putting an Edsel front end on mine, I just smack him in the head with a cast iron frying pan :burnout:
Quote from: hiball3985 on 2017-03-05 11:17
I almost feel sorry for this trooper :003:
Why, he is a tall, sturdy looking individual, would guess well adjusted and has fantastic taste in automobiles!
Quote from: Ford Blue blood on 2017-03-06 06:37
Why, he is a tall, sturdy looking individual, would guess well adjusted and has fantastic taste in automobiles!
Thats almost the same thing my friend Ron said when I sent him the picture. He has a very nice Edsel and we just enjoy harassing each other :003:
I know if it had the tele-touch transmission option it would have been doomed for any kind of dependable day to day use.
Quote from: rmk57 on 2017-03-06 09:03
I know if it had the tele-touch transmission option it would have been doomed for any kind of dependable day to day use.
Back in the 50s and 60s I remember people complaining about those transmission shifters and the cars going into reverse when going forward and making a turn. I never had one, but they had to be very scary.