1957 country sedan build

[djfordmanjack]

I was thinking if a detunded 312 was used in Mercs or Edsels?

[Ecode70D]

    While the heads are off, don't forget to clean that groove between the block and the heads.  They usually get clogged and that keeps
the oil from going into the heads.

[brushwolf]

I was thinking if a detunded 312 was used in Mercs or Edsels?

I have been told that before. This seems to confirm it.  And if the smallest engine available in 1956 Mercury was a 312 it would be surprising if Ford thought a 292 would be adequate for the relative tank bodies produced after that, including 1960...

http://www.mercurystuff.com/1960-mercury-engine-transmissions.html

[brushwolf]

Same site shows y block was produced in Mercury for 1961 and 1962, but not 1963.. 1960 apparently the last 312 and 292 for 61 and 62. 

[Rancher]

Boring paragraph... in the dark days -when I thought I'd never want to run a Y-Bock again lol- I saved a Y-Block from a wrecked circa '62 350 dump truck. But... it had "big" 4bbl intake and ramhorn exhaust, so probably not original to the truck. Real "snappy" runner. I sort of wondered what it was exactly but never bothered to study it very deep. Engine went into a lift-truck where it ran for years befote it was COMPLETELY worn out, to where it finally wouldn't start except by push. Anyway, then I saved it again, lol, and still have it. It'd be crazy if now it turns out to be "thee" engine. Since I now have peer pressure from y'all maybe I'll finally try to ID it.

Anyway, is the speculation that '60 Merc, and such, could sport factory 312 disguised as 292?

[brushwolf]

The Mercury site shows the only Y block available in 1960 for a Mercury was a 312. 61 and 62 Mercury only came with 292 as far as Y blocks per that same site.  But since engines  could have been changed multiple times, the large dot on the crankshaft flange is probably the easiest way to tell a 312 from a 292.

[Rancher]

Thanks.
The reason I'm wondering is because I'm thinking of "turning back the clock" on my SBF powered Ranchero, and I have a "ran well" '60 Merc Y.

[djfordmanjack]

exactly my thinking, both Ranchers and Mikes Ys could be in fact 1960 detuned Merc 312s. It would be very easy to put on ECZ G or 113 heads and maybe a nice Isky or og T bird spcl cam and have a sweet 312. nice nice nice !

[djfordmanjack]

even though I love the Y, imho. the sweetest engine in a 57 is a SBF. have had 2 before. Not a racer but very reliable power. the lighter SBF is great on handling in a 57. My og Y 57 drives nicely but a SBF equipped would even handle better around curves.

Thanks.
The reason I'm wondering is because I'm thinking of "turning back the clock" on my SBF powered Ranchero, and I have a "ran well" '60 Merc Y.

[1930artdeco]

I talked to Tim McMaster today about the heads and he has a set of correct 57 ECZ-G heads he can build up for me. So I will swap him my 471 heads for those. For now the engine will stay stock until I restore the car when I retire. Then I will hop it up a notch, just incase I need some extra power suddenly

I read Guenters post and saw his main bearing caps and was shocked to see the shells. I am going to pop mine as well to plasti gauge them and just check them over. I will post some pics next month after I get back from vacation.



Mike

[alvin stadel]

A few years ago I bought a 1958 F-800 fire truck from the city of Columbus Mt. It had 5200 original miles on it, I am sure the motor had a lot more as it had to run the pumps.  It was a big Y like you have, I was told it was a 3 something merc. It had not run for about 4 years so I put some marvel mistry oil in the cylinders let it set for a few days and when I started it I looked like a bunch of Indians heading to the fair, man talk about smoke. I sold it to a farmer and he put a box and hoist on it and it is still running great

[Rancher]

F-8 was probably a Big Job aka Lincoln "big" Y-Block.
302, 332 and probably offered in another displacement or three.

Edit - thinking again, '58 was dawn of the Super Duty, but obviously it wasn't that; no mistaking one for a Y-Block

[Rancher]

even though I love the Y, imho. the sweetest engine in a 57 is a SBF. have had 2 before. Not a racer but very reliable power. the lighter SBF is great on handling in a 57. My og Y 57 drives nicely but a SBF equipped would even handle better around curves.

I get that, nice accessory drive arrangements, world of power level and transmission options, but still, one last Y-Block with T85 overdrive...   

Not sure I'd even kick a 223 to the curb? 

[mustang6984]

I believe I still have a T-85 in my stuff. Once I get my shop sorted out I'll know for sure. should you be in need of one...let me know. Or if I find it first...I'll let you know.   

[Rancher]

I sure appreciate the offer and the lookout, very kind.
But if someone else is ready for it before me, I'll understand that too.
Thanks