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1957 country sedan build

Started by 1930artdeco, 2021-03-21 00:57

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Rancher

As to fuel line...
I started to install metal tube on a Ranchero. I was hoping for one piece, the entire run. The original crossover ahead of the rear tire is a tough path to follow with the body on the frame. I thought the tube would have to be split to make the bend.

Then I started to think about an old 2020 truck I was working on, all plumbed with Nylon.

I used 3/8 "Nylon" routed outside of frame with an easy crossover to the inside just ahead of the tire. Piece of cake.  When I installed the "plastic" I thought it'd be temporary, just to get the project going. Now I'm thinking that other than some tidying up, it's going to be permanent.

Each tubing choice has a downside. Plastic's big one is that heat could damage it. I'm not sure if that downside is enough to cancel all of the upside?

1930artdeco

Rancher,

Hadn't thought of Nylon. I have been working with the NiCopp stuff (and screwing it up by cutting it to short :cussing:) and it is really easy to bend so that I can plumb it just past of the original spot between the body and frame. What size of fuel line do I need to run-5/16?

Mike
1930 Model A Townsedan
1957 Country Sedan

Rancher

#242
5/16 was the norm.
3/8 provides more flow and possibly more mechanical strength to work with.

Smokey Yunick, I believe it was... one year racing rules put a cap  on fuel tank capacity. That was the year he switched to 2" fuel pipe. Lol

1930artdeco

Well they are off! Used a block of wood and some tire irons and they popped right off easily, after a few good whacks. And this is what I found.

GOOD-Some carbon ridge-albeit not all of the way around and just a very slight wear ridge. No major scoring, although there is one spot that can be seen and just barely felt. Standard bore, clean piston tops-more or less and Ford valves in the heads. Not bad for a sub 50K engine.

BAD-some sludge, not much and it will get cleaned out when on the stand. some scale and goop in the antifreeze in the water jackets. Rust on some valve heads but I think that is from sitting in the yard.


Overall, she is in pretty good shape. Next up is to see what the bearing look like. What do you all think? Passenger head/block and then driver side head/block and finally #6 before scraping and after.



Mike
1930 Model A Townsedan
1957 Country Sedan

1930artdeco

Here #6 before and after scraping
1930 Model A Townsedan
1957 Country Sedan

Lgcustom

Were the head gaskets steel shim or composition?

1930artdeco

#246
Steel, still said fel pro on them. The pic of the driver side block show what the gasket looks like. Only about a finger nails in thickness.

Mike
1930 Model A Townsedan
1957 Country Sedan

mustang6984

Looks to me like some head oil passage going on...lot of black cud on top of pistons. Overall though not bad.
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Rancher

Looks good.
Maybe see if any cylinders "drink" fuel oil if poured on top of the piston.

1930artdeco

So, since this engine has been opened-at least on the top end so far-it has become a Frankenstein motor. Not that that is bad, but just not what I was hoping for. I checked the numbers on the block, heads, exh and intake manifolds and I get different years. This is what I got:

Block= ECZ 6015C=292/312
Exhaust manifolds R=B9AE, L=EDB (58-59 292 manifolds)
Water outlet=ECE-8/3
Intake=ECZ-9425-B

So my guess is this, the engine is a genuine low mileage 312 (well at least at this point in time) that went to the fairlane I got it out of. But at some point the heads and manifolds got replaced along with the valley pan. The only reason I say this about the pan is that it was designed with a PCV valve in it from the factory. It has a stamped indentation where the valve sits so I don't think it is a later mod.

Mike





1930 Model A Townsedan
1957 Country Sedan

hiball3985

If it is a true 312 someone put later low compression truck heads on it. I guess any port in a storm :003:
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1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang

1930artdeco

Got the valley an oil pans off, not to bad. It has 312 caps🎉🎉. Some sludge but not too bad. So as long as the bearings are good, I will regasket her and button her up.

Mike
1930 Model A Townsedan
1957 Country Sedan

djfordmanjack

looking good !
Wasn't the Y block used in some Edsel and Mercury applications after 1957, possibly with low compression heads and detuned hp ratings ?

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Quote from: djfordmanjack on 2021-07-18 04:38
looking good !
Wasn't the Y block used in some Edsel and Mercury applications after 1957, possibly with low compression heads and detuned hp ratings ?

Yup, 292 in 59 and 60 along with the FE series.
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hiball3985

The trucks had low compression Y's through 1964
JIM:
HAPPY HOUR FOR ME IS A GOOD NAP
The universe is made up of electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.
1957 Ranchero
1960 F100 Panel
1966 Mustang